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Occupy Wall Street is stupid and pointless

I think occupy wall street is stupid. That’s going to bother some of you. I am sorry for your hurt feelings but here is the truth as I perceive it: I am doing 2 internships, work a job that pays next to nothing for a lot of effort, am doing a dissertation, am a full-time student, a part-time blogger (which pays enough to keep the blog going and get a few products to review or give away), am a full-time wife and mom and have a husband who hasn’t had a job since April. So to tell me about struggling is futile.

I’ve been out of my mom’s house since I was 20 (12 years now) and I’ve never been on a government program or expected someone to pay me to do nothing. I am absolutely struggling but still working my butt off for a better life. THAT is what it means to live in this country. The hope and chance to make it despite the difficulty. It does not mean I get a handout because I was born in this country or because someone else makes more money than I do. I pay my taxes and I give when I can. Struggling is part of being an adult. Yes, I would like to see our economy change. No, it shouldn’t happen that we all get freebies because life is hard on the dimes of people that have more than we do while we do absolutely little to nothing to earn it.

If you haven’t seen the list of demands from the Occupy Wall Street people, you are in for a treat of epic proportion:

The first demand is that minimum wage be bumped up to $20 an hour. Gosh, we should pay the people who can’t get my order right at McDonald’s or those who didn’t bother finishing high school, the same amount of pay that an entry level engineer might make? You know, the person that had to pay for at least 4-6 years of college education? Uh-huh. Unicorns and rainbows, my friends.

Another demand? Let’s get rid of health insurance because it takes money away from those of us who are health professionals. As a health professional, I don’t personally take health insurance because of the nuances of health insurance and letting a bunch of people who have no business looking through your personal stuff look through it in order to “authorize” your visits to me. However, let’s consider having to pay every single visit out of pocket. In the Nashville area, a single doctor’s visit runs $125-$260 a pop. I can say this after being on crappy COBRA insurance for six months that is bleeding me dry and having to meet a $2500 deductible before they pay anything. My doctor’s visits? Not covered. This means that if I want to go, I pay out of pocket. You accept these demands and you understand that you are going to pay out the wazoo next time you have a respiratory infection. Some of you are prone to them. What if you get a bad rash that just won’t go away? A nasty case of poison ivy? Yep. $300 out the window PLUS whatever the steroid shot costs. See what I’m saying?

Free college education is another demand. Who is going to pay the people that teach you? As an adjunct, I’m not going to put the effort into teaching you for free. I don’t have time. And if everyone has a college degree, guess how much those are valued now? Guess how many people are going to sit their butts in college indefinitely and take out limitless student loans for living expenses?

All these requests for freebies and I’m wondering WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR ANYTHING? Who is going to pay the $20/hour? The government? The government gets its money from the citizens who plan to sit on their butts doing nothing or getting a free education which will be paid for by…no one because no one will actually be working.

Outlaw all the debt? Awesome. I’m down with that, but how many companies will be going under because of that which means how many more of you will be out of jobs and how much more will our nation be in debt due to the government loans that won’t be paid back?

I’m already bored with this. Seriously, if you are buying into this, you don’t really understand how the system works. Feel free to read through the demands and keep insisting that this is the way to fix everything. Feel free to keep protesting a flawed system. I’ll protest that one with you. But how about using all that free time you’ve got and the brain power you are wasting by coming up with real solutions instead of something that is inherently flawed and would only zap what little resources we have left, eh?

Thanks.

One of the remaining tax-paying citizens who isn’t making much but is still trying

Edit: 11/14/11 I just wanted to note that Occupy Wall street protesters are now upset with Jay-Z, who was attempting to “support” them by creating “Occupy All Streets” T-shirts. However, he chose to do this by embracing capitalism and charging for the t-shirts and then making the large error of not giving any of the profits to Occupy Wall Street. The Occupy Wall Street Protesters saw this as a huge slap in the face and embraced capitalism and demanded some of the profits. Unfortunately, they did not earn them in any way other than by creating the idea, which they didn’t patent. Jay-Z pulled the t-shirts, didn’t give them any money, OWS chants “we are owed this” and the entitlement continues. In all fairness, Jay-Z probably should have given them some of the money. However, had he done it, it would have contributed to the entitled nature of the movement and would have left us without the irony of them demanding money from the capitalist venture. I can appreciate it.

Another Edit 11/19/11: This week, Occupy Nashville protestors invaded Donald Rumsfeld’s book tour dinner in Nashville calling him a war criminal and disrupting a $125/plate dinner. A friend of mine asked if I expected anything different from Occupy protestors and I said, “This is Nashville. We are better behaved folks than most and I EXPECT MANNERS. I expect people to follow the rules of peaceful protest or get out of my city. We are known for being a genial people and if you don’t want to follow the rules you can get out.” I think that what the Occupy Nashville people did by going into Donald Rumsfeld’s dinner and calling him and war criminal was tasteless and tacky. I am vehemently against the Occupy movement and I am disappointed in this kind of tactic. There is a difference between peaceful, non-violent protest and something like this and the things I’m seeing in Oakland and the other areas where things are getting violent. I’m disappointed in us as a people. This doesn’t feel like a freedom and power to the people thing…it feels like an entitlement and attention thing and I’m over it. See their triumphant self-congratulatory after-party here.

Jillian

91 Comments

  1. Thaed says:

    Thank you for writing this. Has the news become so slow that these idiots get so much air time? Their ideas are not new at all and if they would put their Xbox controllers down long enough to read a bio on Stalin or Mao, they would see where it all ends. It’s enough to make me start thinking that Buckley was right and we need A National Service to give people like this something to do that they can’t avoid.

  2. Jillian says:

    Too much free time when Mom and Dad will let them live at home indefinitely and foot the bill…things change when you have to pay your own way. It starts to get hard and then you realize you’d like someone ELSE to pay it for you. Then you want socialism.

  3. Rusty says:

    This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands.

  4. Xplycyt says:

    If you are basing your opinion of Occupy on this forum post you may have a valid point, however it also shows you are just as ignorant as the writer of said post. Occupy is not about demands, its about calling for accountability for the economic disaster and change in the way our government is run by special interests who dont care about you. The govt loves people like you who feel they should just work harder and harder for less and less and not worry how much time you dont spend with your family or what your childrens future will be. Just because no one has any “real solutions”… Well at least they are trying. Why not write how you feel about the “flawed system” instead of this useless drivel on your opinion of Occupy Wall Street

  5. Jillian says:

    Yeah, you’ve clearly read my blog. I absolutely don’t spend time with my family or worry about my kid’s future. OWS is trying? How? By sitting on a street corner getting in the way? Right. That helps.

  6. Xplycyt says:

    “I am doing 2 internships, work a job that pays next to nothing for a lot of effort, am doing a dissertation, am a full-time student, a part-time blogger (which pays enough to keep the blog going and get a few products to review or give away), am a full-time wife and mom and have a husband who hasn’t had a job since April.” “I absolutely don’t spend time with my family or worry about my kid’s future.” Which one of these statements are meant to be sarcastic? OWS is not just trying, they have succeeded, in making you think. Just look at the results in front of you.

  7. Xplycyt says:

    Sorry to bother you again, found something to inspire you to be more creative with your opinions. http://www.equallyhappy.com/2011/10/31/why-occupy-wall-street-sucks/

  8. Dopey says:

    Well said. You want to see stupid first hand? Watch these interviews I did down at OWS in NYC… It’s a new kind of dumb.
    http://thedopeycowboy.com/members/2011/11/occupy-wall-street-your-stupid-is-showing/

  9. Jillian says:

    Clearly I’ve hit a nerve in you. Glad to see that I’ve got that much power. Again, read the blog. I’m able to balance my stuff. You can’t attack me without knowing how well I’m able to manage it.

  10. Thericker says:

    Thank you for writing this. I grew up thinking I was a socialist communist and there is a reason why I won’t capitalize the first letters of those word. Once I matured and took responsibility for myself and my own actions and learned that I am completely responsible for everything happening in my life, I started to think about how ridiculous the mentality is to live with the idea that I am owed something…period.

    I also think OWS is retarded and I am right in that age group that is currently trying to make protesting famous and I choose not to partake in that and work for that change rather than complain about not getting my share. These kids and adults that are whining in the streets are counter productive to the cause of what life is all about: Making your own way in life.

    These arguments about schooling where they want free education are baseless. If you serve your country, you qualify for your education being paid for. What’s the big deal?

    The arguments of corporations making unfair amounts of money are ridiculous. The job of a business is to make money. If you don’t like that business, don’t shop there. Asking for the Government to grow bigger and regulate that is lame.

    These people are lacking a basic understanding of how our country works simply because they’ve refused to learn about it their whole lives.

    Great responses to the dissent on your article too which by the way always struck me funny. These people that don’t agree with you seem to want you to take your opinion down or change it. The point of democracy is not social acceptance but the ability to have your own way about things. It just so happens that your way is more logical and appreciated than some guy pooping on a cop car trying to make a point about unfairness in culture.

    Thank you, great blog.

  11. Thericker says:

    oh and the most retarded thing about these protests are that while Greece might have a valid point, the protests in the US don’t. London…probably and likely since you have a completely different type of governing body over there. Over in the US, we just seem to do it because it looks cool. The US has the most free and organized system in the world and yet there they are, breaking windows if small businesses, creating more trash, throwing concerts for no reason….and this is the generation coming up after me? Great.

  12. Ash says:

    Very true – good to see there are still some intelligent people left in this world…

  13. Jules says:

    So you’re saying you LIKE the struggle? Wouldn’t you find life more appealing if you had more time to spend with your husband and child(ren)? Wouldn’t you like it if there was a job for your husband to get? Instead of 4 unemployed struggling Americans for every ONE job opening? (<-Getting worse every day) Wouldn't you like YOUR voice heard in politics? Did you not like the idea of 'WE THE PEOPLE' Instead of corporations having the say in our laws, way of life and where YOUR money is spent? I'd really like to hear more from your point of view.

  14. Jillian says:

    No you wouldn’t. You don’t like the views I express now.

  15. Rosie says:

    Thank you for expressing the truth. My parents came here as immigrants. They worked for their entire lives for barely any money; however, they worked very hard, learned the language and built a life for themselves. They did this with no hand outs and no complaining. They didn’t sit on their lazy butts and wait for government handouts. Thank you for saying what needs to be said. People are so blinded by the media and stupid, unrealistic demands of these fools.

  16. Kuk says:

    Totally agree. Life is a struggle. Sure, life would be great if we could all make 100k and spend loads of time with our fam, but when has life ever been like that for the average person? That’s not what life is about. Especially in America. It’s about grinding everyday until maybe you make it big. Maybe you don’t. Nobody is deserved a great life. “Some people are born, starve, and die. That’s their whole lives” (L.Ck)It’s sad, but these things happen.

    Right now, the economy sucks and jobs are hard to come by. I’ve been looking for one for months. But that’s just how it is right now. You may not like the struggle, but there is no way to avoid it.

  17. travis Williams says:

    The TRUTH of the matter is that our country gave out home loans to people they should not have. They let illegals into our country, which by the way get pamphlets on how to take from the US government. Our Welfare systems need to be majorly reformed. I was at a 7-11 and I pulled in the parking lot and I heard what looked to see a teen age girl say while on her cell “I need to get pregnant again; my grandma says I need more money” Another time I was at the hospital where I work and I was doing some paper work by the new born area of the hospital and I noticed 2 Hispanic men talking (I don’t think they knew that I can speak Spanish). One said to the other how will you pay for this do you have insurance and the one replied “chit man, let the state pay for it” then he replied, didn’t you let this US of A pay for yours? In a nut shell…this is what is wrong with our country.

  18. Jillian says:

    Travis, I have thoughts on that stuff but it’s something of a red herring for this discussion.

  19. PJ says:

    For the fellow who said “There is no official list of demands!” makes me go back to the theory that they once again don’t know what they themselves are fighting for. They keep saying that “We listen to the media, and the media tells us that the Occupy “movement” doesn’t hold any weight. But whenever I wander past a tv on a news channel, it’s got something going on about Occupy and making pro-Occupy statements. Then again, Communist News Network (CNN) hasn’t made very many intelligent statements. It’s nice to know the hippies of modern day aren’t exactly sure of themselves either.

  20. PJ says:

    and to Jules. Your statement about unemployment getting worse every day is incorrect. It falters, and depending on states, has it’s average. Read facts before making assumptions or false statements. “Anything in life worth having is worth working for.” – Andrew Carnegie. Yes, I’d rather struggle. Natural human emotion is to revel in something that they’ve accomplished. It gives our ego’s the boost they need. I would love to work for my own self satisfaction, as I know I’m the only one that can achieve that. There’s nothing humble about having hardworking American’s take care of me.

  21. Scott says:

    Great article. My wife just opened a business a couple of months ago and it’s doing great. The American Dream is still alive and well as long as you aren’t an entitled sad-sack.

    To the sad-sacks:
    1)Get/Live debt free – DaveRamsey.com
    Know the truth about the people you hate – “The 2)Millionaire Next Door” Great book.
    3)Get over yourself

  22. Anonymous says:

    I thought I was the only one who thought Occupy Wall Street was stupid and pointless.

  23. Anonymous says:

    Can’t blame Occupy, lazy and self entitled is a hard way to go through life.

    The 1% means jobs for the 99%, if you really want to work int he U.S. you can.

  24. Sandip Dev says:

    Well written. You make very valid points. I have friends who are studying in the US and each one has taken a student loan and also working part time to earn some extra. This OWS hippies just want handouts

  25. Randel Dorn says:

    Nice blog i agree, but all they want is socalism witch slowly drains an economy to death…. COUGH*greece………. ya there screwed. also Xplycyt. your totally wrong. you are ingorance at its finest. the government wants u to be powerless and fed by them. why do u think socalism always fails? read animal farm, its a good book. you might learn what socalism does. aka communism.

  26. s4ndm4n says:

    Very well written article and as an older person, I am very happy to see some younger people with a good idea about how the system really works, gives me more confidence that our future has hope still and it’s not all younger folk believing in “Ponies and Rainbows” as you put it. :D Keep up the great writing.

  27. Kidd says:

    Thank you!!! They think they are representing all of the 99% but the turth is the percentage of this 99% that supports them is VERY low! They really piss me off, I may be part of the 99% BUT I DO NOT SUPPORT THEM!!

  28. bc says:

    You are so right…I fail to comprehend what it is that they want and the means by which they are going about it. I was born into a communist system (Cuba) and it is very troubling to see what is happening in this great country. They take life here for granted, they should get a real taste of what it’s like to live in a state controlled country. Take it from someone who’s experienced both, they are totally clueless.

  29. J says:

    I like how these idiot protesters think you LOVE corporations if you disagree with assaulting police officers.

    I voted for Obama, and still, I have more respect for the Tea Party than OWS.

    At least the Tea Party wasn’t preventing people from getting to work, or trying to shut down the stock exchange.

  30. J says:

    By the way, a college friend of mine who lives in Brooklyn is involved in OWS, and I constantly see the comments and pictures he posts on Facebook. So believe me, I’ve seen both sides of the debate.

    Most of the time, when people blame “the media,” they’re just ashamed that their true colors are showing.

  31. Jillian says:

    These comments have kind of taken on a life of their own. It’s interesting to me to see how many perspectives we all have and WHY we feel the way we do about these protests. I’m growing concerned about the violence that is taking place and how the “peaceful” protest is changing.

  32. Cleo says:

    I looked up “occupy wall street” on the net because I was trying to figure out what in the world these people wanted. Whatever their point is, they certainly don’t make it very clear. Out of frustration,I googled “occupy wall street is stupid” and ended up here. :-)
    At any rate, that leaves me to believe that it is just a bunch of people sitting around gripping instead of actively trying to change whatever it is that they don’t like about their lives. When I ask my peers what they are trying to achieve, they do not have answers either. Instead of making me sit up and listen, I have lost respect for the entire group.

    Thanks for the blog and letting me vent.

  33. Jillian says:

    Cleo, I think that’s how a lot of people get here. I just hope they stick around. ^_^ That same frustration caused me to write the post in the first place. You are welcome to vent as much as you’d like.

    Last night, I saw a video of Occupy Nashville (where I live) jumping in on Donald Rumsfeld’s book tour dinner here. I’ve edited my post to reflect my comments on that.

  34. Tawny Marie says:

    So glad to come across this. I am also a mom, work two FT jobs, and am getting myself through school. My boyfriend is the same. We’ve managed to stay off of public assistance even when we were barely making ends meet. We live in Oakland…I am very much so liberal in many of my beliefs…BUT this is not the way to do it. I’m sure some of them have legit concerns and all I have to say to that is then why not go to school, get a career, and hell maybe one day get into politics? If these people put this amount of effort into acquiring a skill and becoming employed imagine the possibilities…Believe it or not the “1%” didn’t get rich overnight…MANY worked very hard to get where they are and quite honestly are DESERVING of it. To me these protesters are looking for handouts. You should check out the Occupy Oakland “want list”…Crayons, A Blender, Back Massage Volunteers? Seriously? What the heck do they plan on doing? …To me they just want Rent FREE housing on public property…In the meantime I’m sick of them trashing the public property, causing traffic, blocking access to small businesses (who are also the 99%), and taking up the time of our police department…Remember I live in Oakland…Has some of the highest crime rates in certain areas…We need every single officer in this city…These people are NOT the 99%…The REAL 99% is sick of their shenanigans! And what’s with “stop foreclosures”…Foreclosures are the result (for the MOST par) of someone living beyond their means…I enjoyed your post and even got a good laugh…I’m subscribing to your blog :)

  35. Jillian says:

    What a great comment, Tawny! Thanks! I don’t write about this stuff frequently. Usually it’s just the typical little league, book reviews, etc., but every now and then I get fired up. ;)

  36. Eric says:

    You are a genius. God bless you for all the hard work you do as a working parent.

    I believe that 1% of the 99% represent the OWS movement. The rest of us just want them to go away. I came across this great photo that pretty much sums it up: http://naflotteron.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/377563_2578617431290_1430016342_2896058_567124173_n.jpg

  37. Jillian says:

    That picture is excellent, Eric. Thanks for the kind words.

  38. sarah says:

    Jillian I agree with you. OWS want hand outs and want to blame the rich getting richer on their own laziness. They are not only occupying the street…but using more and more resources without giving back to our country. It is very hypocritical and I also agree we should do something to help our economy. But this is just being a bad parasite by sitting around and not contributing hoping a picket sign will get them somewhere but it gets them no where at all. It doesn’t work that way and it has never worked that way! We are not “sheep” because we actually do have a mind of our own AND a job. Its just pure laziness. They are the ones who we are having to pay for by having them sit there demanding bathrooms and blah blah from the city (they are using and not giving back)! Thanks for the blog…

  39. s4ndm4n says:

    Seems that you’ve hit a nerve with your blog. I subscribed to your blog and seems that every email update I get is for this thread! lol. I, by the way and a full time employee making a decent wage but.. I have a family, two growing boys, a wife and two grown children out of the house. Although I work already full time, my wife stays home and is going to school. In order to get out of the debt *we* created (no one else) I have taken on a a lower paying retail job in addition to my full time job. And you know what? I feel good about doing for my family and working on getting us out of debt! :) Ugh.

  40. Jillian says:

    First, s4ndm4n, thanks for subscribing to my blog. I always feel immensely thankful and flattered that anyone bothers to read this and cares about what I think. I appreciate you sticking around! :) Yes! This post and the one about Ashlynn Conner keep getting hits and comments and people genuinely care about the topics. I appreciate it considering I write so much fluff usually. ^_^

    In regards to what you said about getting out of debt, YOU ARE AWESOME! I know it’s not what you want to do, but you aren’t just sitting around woeing about what is happening “to” you. Excellent comment.

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